Harm Reduction: GBL/GHB harm reduction - Revision history

Luma at 10:42, 31 July 2025

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	It is not too important if the final product contains too much GBL. But too much NaOH can cause serious health problems. The reaction produces a lot of heat and serious burns can occur. So wear protection glasses and gloves and pour slowly products.		It is not too important if the final product contains too much GBL. But too much NaOH can cause serious health problems. The reaction produces a lot of heat and serious burns can occur. So wear protection glasses and gloves and pour slowly products.

	Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at:		Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at: <br>
	https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/4nt4sk/how_to_make_ghb_liquid_ecstasy <br>		https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/4nt4sk/how_to_make_ghb_liquid_ecstasy <br>
	https://www.legit-steroid-powder.com/2017/12/06/how-to-make-gbl-to-ghb-liquid <br>		https://www.legit-steroid-powder.com/2017/12/06/how-to-make-gbl-to-ghb-liquid <br>

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	Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at:		Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at:
	https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/4nt4sk/how_to_make_ghb_liquid_ecstasy/ <br>		https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/4nt4sk/how_to_make_ghb_liquid_ecstasy <br>
	https://www.legit-steroid-powder.com/2017/12/06/how-to-make-gbl-to-ghb-liquid/ <br>		https://www.legit-steroid-powder.com/2017/12/06/how-to-make-gbl-to-ghb-liquid <br>

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Luma at 10:41, 31 July 2025

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	It is not too important if the final product contains too much GBL. But too much NaOH can cause serious health problems. The reaction produces a lot of heat and serious burns can occur. So wear protection glasses and gloves and pour slowly products.		It is not too important if the final product contains too much GBL. But too much NaOH can cause serious health problems. The reaction produces a lot of heat and serious burns can occur. So wear protection glasses and gloves and pour slowly products.

	Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at: ~~[Will import these post soon]~~		Trustworthy guidelines for this process are available at:
			https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/4nt4sk/how_to_make_ghb_liquid_ecstasy/ <br>
			https://www.legit-steroid-powder.com/2017/12/06/how-to-make-gbl-to-ghb-liquid/ <br>

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	Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.		Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.
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	Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.		Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.
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	Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.		Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.
			== Credit ==
			Full credit goes towards DoctorX on Dread! (sourced from /post/ca93ffda5e25e2181f05) - http://www.doctorcaudevilla.com/doctorx

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	\| Corrosive to some plastics, irritative to mucous membranes \|\| Non corrosive \|\| \|\|		\| Corrosive to some plastics, irritative to mucous membranes \|\| Non corrosive \|\| \|\|
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			<strong>Dosage and frequency</strong><br>
			At doses of 1-2 grams / 0.5- 2 ml of pure GBL/GHB) it produces an effect relatively similar to that of alcohol (euphoria, disinhibition, loquacity, relaxation...). The effects begin 20-30 minutes after intake and last for about two hours. It is possible to prolong the effects by administering doses of 0.5-1.5 ml every 1-2 hours.
			Increasing the dose also increases the risk of depressant effects (incoordination, dizziness, drowsiness...).

			<strong>Overdose</strong><br>
			Overdose is the most frequent and important hazard of GHB, occurring with a relatively high frequency:▪.

			The margin of safety of GHB is less than that of other substances. Doses above 3 grams can produce deep sleep.
			▪ The fact that it can be diluted in water makes proper dosing difficult.
			▪ Mixing GHB with depressants (alcohol, benzodiazepines, ketamine...) increases the risk of intoxication exponentially.

			<strong>Dependence</strong><br>
			Prolonged use of GHB (over a few weeks) can lead to the development of dependence. In these cases, abrupt cessation of GHB use can trigger a withdrawal syndrome (similar to that of alcohol or benzodiazepines) characterized by tremor, hallucinations, tachycardia, insomnia and, in severe cases, rhabdomyolysis, seizures and delirium.
			Symptoms usually manifest approximately 24 hours after the last exposure and can last up to two weeks

			<strong>Pharmacological treatment of withdrawal syndrome is based:</strong><br>
			Use of benzodiazepines such as diazepam or lorazepam during weeks
			Progressive tapering of the dose of GHB during weeks

			Both strategies have shown to be effective in some studies.

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	! GHB weight !! GHB volume !! GBL volume !! Effects		! GHB weight !! GHB volume !! GBL volume !! Effects

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	The effects of (solid) drugs are usually expressed by weight (micrograms like LSD, milligrams like MDMA or amphetamines...). In this case, the liquid presentation means that we also refer to the volume (ml).		The effects of (solid) drugs are usually expressed by weight (micrograms like LSD, milligrams like MDMA or amphetamines...). In this case, the liquid presentation means that we also refer to the volume (ml).

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			! GHB weight !! GHB volume !! GBL volume !! Effects
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			\| Below 1 gr \|\| Below 1 ml \|\| Below 0.6 ml \|\| Decreased anxiety, moderate disinhibition
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			\| 1-2 gr \|\| 1-2 ml \|\| 0.6-1.25 ml \|\| Feeling of relaxation, changes in music perception, dizziness, speech blurry
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			\| 2-4 gr \|\| 2-4 ml \|\| 0.25-2.5 ml \|\| Feeling of relaxation, changes in music perception, dizziness, speech blurry
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			\| Corrosive to some plastics, irritative to mucous membranes \|\| Non corrosive \|\| \|\|
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Luma at 12:10, 27 July 2025

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	\| Corrosive to some plastics, irritative to mucous membranes \|\| Non corrosive		\| Corrosive to some plastics, irritative to mucous membranes \|\| Non corrosive
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			The differences between GBL and GHB are important in terms of dosage. On the one hand, GBL has a higher density (weight units that fit in each volume unit) than GHB (1.6 g/ml vs. 1.002 g/ml). On the other hand, GBL and GHB molecules have different weights.

			The effects of (solid) drugs are usually expressed by weight (micrograms like LSD, milligrams like MDMA or amphetamines...). In this case, the liquid presentation means that we also refer to the volume (ml).